jg You were the one who really paid so much attention and supported so many people who arethe invisible victims. I hope I honored the work you did here.
So when is your book coming out?? eh?
Lady Lee
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The Invisible Victims of Cults - Video
by Lady Lee inat the icsa conference in montreal jult 4-7 i gave a presentation based on some of the responses to questions i asked on the following threads.. if you are dating or married to a jw: a few questions .
if you and your spouse were both jws but you decided to leave: a few questions .
if you were raised in a home with a jw parent and a non-jw parent: a few questions .
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2012 ICSA Conference The Ethics of Evangelism
by Lady Lee inwell the title of this caught me attention especially since so many ex-jehovah's witnesses think any kind of evangelism or preaching is bad.
so the idea that some evangelism might actually be good intrigued me.
i have refrained from adding comments how jws measure up to each of these.
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Lady Lee
dpg perhaps a better word be recruitment for non-religious groups. But regardless of the type of group it is I think this list can be used to assess how manipulative the group and its members are. In any group you will have the gung-ho types that walk all over their potential recruits and bully them into a group using a few of the things on the list.I don't know if they would stay too long in a group that would ask them to tone it down.
But if the leadership is like this then it follows that most of the members would be like this too. Everyone plays follow the leader whether they like it or not.
FM
My favorite statement: "True freedom means that at any time you have the freedom to walk away with dignity."
That is a statement that I have read here many times. It wasn't from the presentation - just my notes - but well worth reminding ourselves of it again
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The Invisible Victims of Cults - Video
by Lady Lee inat the icsa conference in montreal jult 4-7 i gave a presentation based on some of the responses to questions i asked on the following threads.. if you are dating or married to a jw: a few questions .
if you and your spouse were both jws but you decided to leave: a few questions .
if you were raised in a home with a jw parent and a non-jw parent: a few questions .
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Lady Lee
I had read all the research people were coming to the conference to tell us about and well there are so many boards on the internet. I figured I needed to show that what I was reporting on was not just info from a handful of people. So I contacted Simon and those stats were for the month before I went to the confernece so they were pretty up do tate.
I don't think I will ever forget the look on Madeline Tobias' (co-author of Take Back your Life) face when I said how huge this board is. 130,000 unique visitors a month! That is massive
hmm going to do a bit of sleuthing later on.
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I think people want to believe in an Armageddon
by dgp inthe end of the world (aka "this system of things") has been predicted to happen "soon" many times.
in my own lifetime, and not being a jw, i have been warned that the world would end like six times already.
harold camping predicted one end of the world twice only last year.
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Lady Lee
Children rarely believe that they have the power to change things. They believe in magical solutions like those of the the Wizard of Oz. They believe that the strong and wonderful prince will come to rescue them.
JWs like many other people never grow up. They are like Peter Pan from the children's book hero who returns to a magical place where every need is cared for.
When you treat people like children and never allow they to learn to think for themselves it is no wonder that they have a hard time believing they have the power within them to change things. They don't vote because it means nothing will change. They don't do volunteer work in their communities because God will deal with it soon enough. If you just close your eyes to what is happening all around you then you can wait for magic to happen and for all the bad things to be gone.
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wow I didn't know you could do that!
by Lady Lee inok right after i got back from the conference my desktop computer died an ugly death.
so i have been struggling on with my laptop which really isn't up to all the things i like to do at the same time.. so i bit the bullet and went out and bought another computer.
got a real deal because i didn't want their hard drive.
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Lady Lee
Thanks
I went into the BIOS and changed a few settings. Got the ethernet to work but as far as the computer was concerned there was no sound so I grabbed my old sound card and installed it and all is well. It helps to have kept all these cards
But I did get rid of 3 hard drives (20, 40 and 60 MB) got rid of a very old laptop. (He couldn't believe I ran Win XP on it) and two desktop computers minus all of the other extra cards and drives I hung on to But I should be ok with the 200 GB SATA and the 250GB external.
I still have an extra 200 GB hard drive but the SATA drive as the main drive it really doesn't want to see the other kind even though I installed it on the DVD-RW cable. Guess mix and unmatch doesn't go too well here.
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wow I didn't know you could do that!
by Lady Lee inok right after i got back from the conference my desktop computer died an ugly death.
so i have been struggling on with my laptop which really isn't up to all the things i like to do at the same time.. so i bit the bullet and went out and bought another computer.
got a real deal because i didn't want their hard drive.
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Lady Lee
Aware!
There was a time before Plug and Play became a standard. Modem had to be installed inside the computer and you had to dfo all kinds of coding and fiddling around to get the thing to work. I know experts who hated to put in modems. They were the most time-consuming and frustrating piece of technology that was ever made. But they did get you online and if you were very patinet you got nothign but text and a black screen with green text. No pictures and sound was the screech of the modem dialing and connecting to the internet. And you could then surf the internet at a whopping 56 km yes kilobytes per second. And you might get disconnected any time the server had too many people logged on at the same time. It required the patience of Job.
Billy
Good for you. Now it is pretty easy to build a computer and put what you want into it. I love my tower. My last computer was the box type that you could sit your monitor on. I hated it so I wasn't really too sad to see it go.Now I am back to a tower.
cyber
I checked out the iPads and even the netbooks. But I want a spider web of peripherals. My list is long:
- printer/scanner/copier/fax - finally sucked it up and bought a 4-in-one
- camera
- webcam
- e-reader
- modem
- external hard drive
- 19 in monitor
- lots of ports for USB - still have 2 on the back (on the internal that I installed) and 2 in front for flash drives and the e-reader
Now if I only could get the sound to work
Why is it that the on-board sound and the ethernet plugs don't work? I'm thinking I might have to install my old sound card to get this to work
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wow I didn't know you could do that!
by Lady Lee inok right after i got back from the conference my desktop computer died an ugly death.
so i have been struggling on with my laptop which really isn't up to all the things i like to do at the same time.. so i bit the bullet and went out and bought another computer.
got a real deal because i didn't want their hard drive.
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Lady Lee
Aware! It doesn't take as long as it used to. Ever try installing a modem on a 386? Is that what those old things are. Gosh my first computer didn't even have a hard drive. That was an 8088 and we thought we were speeding across the universe. You had to save everything on the big old floppy discs - back in the dark ages when they really were floppy.
It generally takes me a day to reistall everything and then you have to get it all set up. Again. I didn't even lose any of my favorite links this time
An iPad? I'm still reveling in my e-reader
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wow I didn't know you could do that!
by Lady Lee inok right after i got back from the conference my desktop computer died an ugly death.
so i have been struggling on with my laptop which really isn't up to all the things i like to do at the same time.. so i bit the bullet and went out and bought another computer.
got a real deal because i didn't want their hard drive.
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Lady Lee
btw I think the onlky true way to get a decent computer is to build it yourself
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wow I didn't know you could do that!
by Lady Lee inok right after i got back from the conference my desktop computer died an ugly death.
so i have been struggling on with my laptop which really isn't up to all the things i like to do at the same time.. so i bit the bullet and went out and bought another computer.
got a real deal because i didn't want their hard drive.
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Lady Lee
If only those teckkies at the shop could see this little ole granny sliding out of my wheelchair, sitting on the floor with computer parts everywhere around me. I doubt too many would believe I could put it all back together again. AND make it work.
ah the joy. My huge screen. My ergonomic keyboard. My desk.
Laptops are cool and all but working on one that sits on a TV table -- nope not for me.
Someone was showing me her her phone with a tiny flip out keyboard. That would just about send my around the bend. I would need a magnifying glass and a spotlight to see what I was doing -- and splints for my hands at night due to all the tapping out on that tiny thing. Tennis elbow for thumbs.
No this granny likes big screens that I can see and a big keyboard so my typing isn't too too bad
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2012 ICSA Conference The Ethics of Evangelism
by Lady Lee inwell the title of this caught me attention especially since so many ex-jehovah's witnesses think any kind of evangelism or preaching is bad.
so the idea that some evangelism might actually be good intrigued me.
i have refrained from adding comments how jws measure up to each of these.
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Lady Lee
I have to agree with you and the others rip.
It seems that no matter what scale you use to determine whether any group is a cult or not the JWs score on every point. Full marks -- they fail
How many years would we have saved out of our lives if we had this information earlier?